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what size of a turbine did you use??????

Discussion in 'Newbie and Basic Turbo Tech Forum' started by M&M Turbochargers, May 8, 2014.

  1. M&M Turbochargers

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    Jan 31, 2011
    copy and paste the below, and enter your info,, just a thread to share information and help people select the correct turbine for their application,, please PM me if you would like any other info added on the original post


    make- Ford Chevy Chrysler
    c.i.d.
    heads
    cam specs
    max rpm
    turbo used
    twin/single
    turbine wheel specs
    turbine housing AR T4-T6
    manifolds
    headers- tube size,collector size
    cross over tubing size
    pre-turbine pressure
    PSI boost
    back pressure
    down pipe size
    muffler
    what rpm does it spool
    fuel
    hp/tq
     
  2. TTF/Ken Staff Member

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    Dec 31, 2011
    I'm sticking this so we can use it to build up a repository of data for the users.
     
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  3. mikeg

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    Apr 6, 2013
    331 sbf/ tea 205 twisted wedge heads/ f-cam/ tfs track heat intake. on3 hot side. master power ptrm 0.96a/r 76mm turbo. made 601rwhp/580tq at 5500 rpm but was down to 450 by 6200. 12psi/ 12 degrees of timing. i have since upgraded to a s480 t4 1.25 a/r 96mm exhaust wheel. changed from 3" downpipe to 4" downpipe. 3" x pipe with flowmasters and 2.5 tailpipes
     
  4. 93AlexCoupe

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    Oct 28, 2008
    306
    TFS FAC 190
    F303 1.7s
    6800-7k
    S480 non race cover 87mm turbine 1.1ar T4
    27psi
    1 5/8 primary 2.5 collector
    2.5 x over
    4" dp
    Dual 3" magnaflow ovals
    3500 rpm starts building boost
    E85
    Made 900rwhp with a pt1000
    680 on 93oct 13psi.
    New best was 8.70@157
    Best 1/8 was 5.5@127
    3342 with full ice/water and full tank of e85
     
  5. Forcefed86

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    Nov 24, 2005
    Make- GM
    c.i.d.- 323 (5.3 liter) Gen 4 Flat top piston 10:1
    heads - GM 243 as cast, no porting.
    cam specs '“ 212/212 @ 112 .56x lift.
    max rpm - 6500
    turbo used '“Small BW S475 1.10AR T4 83/74 turbine wheel
    twin/single- Single
    turbine wheel specs 83/74
    turbine housing -1.10 AR T4
    manifolds '“ 98 Fbody stamped steel
    headers- tube size,collector size '“ 2.5'
    cross over tubing size 2.5' (poor 'T' merge pre turbo)
    pre-turbine pressure
    PSI boost peak '“ 21lbs
    back pressure peak'“ 60ish psi. Right around 2.8:1
    down pipe size 4'
    muffler -none
    what rpm does it spool '“ I launch at 9-10lbs on the brake, 2-step at 3500rpm.
    fuel '“ E85
    hp/tq '“ ?

    Can see the crappo "T" merge in the image below.

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  6. Jeremy

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    Jun 6, 2005
    Old single setup:

    Ford
    281 4.6 9:1 compression
    stock 3v heads
    230 duration, 115.5 lsa, .480 lift
    6800rpms
    Comp 70mm
    single
    68mm 10 blade comp turbine wheel
    T4 3"vband .68ar
    ceramic coated shorty headers
    2.5" piping pre-turbo
    Full 3" after turbo
    16psi
    magnaflow magnapacks
    starts spooling when you touch the gas, full boost at 2200rpms when taking off from down low.
    93 octane
    640rwhp 704rwtq
     
  7. Mike86Stang

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    Dec 21, 2011
    c.i.d. 302
    heads GT-40P
    cam specs E-303 220/220 110 lsa .480 lift
    max rpm ??? Shifted at 5500
    turbo used Holset HX-52
    twin/single Single
    turbine wheel specs 12 blade 84mm in/ 70mm ex.
    turbine housing AR T4-T6 T4 16cm ( supposedly about 1.10 A/R)
    headers- tube size,collector size 1-5/8th primary /2.25 coll
    cross over tubing size 2.5
    pre-turbine pressure ???
    PSI boost 10 psi currently
    back pressure ???
    down pipe size 4"
    muffler None
    what rpm does it spool 2psi at 2500 full boost 3000
    fuel 93 Octane
    hp/tq
    ??? but I'm sure it won't be enough :grin:
     
  8. mikeg

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    Apr 6, 2013
    331 sbf/ tea 205 twisted wedge heads/ f-cam/ tfs track heat intake. on3 hot side. master power ptrm 0.96a/r 76mm turbo. made 601rwhp/580tq at 5500 rpm but was down to 450 by 6200. 12psi/ 12 degrees of timing. i have since upgraded to a s480 t4 1.25 a/r 96mm exhaust wheel. changed from 3" downpipe to 4" downpipe. 3" x pipe with flowmasters and 2.5 tailpipes
    new turbo results. 740rwhp and 620tq at 6500 starts building boost at 4000 reaches target of 16lb at 6000. It is rather laggy but pulls like a train. I will be taking it to the track this weekend to see what it will do.
     
  9. tchargers

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    Nov 3, 2012
    make-Chevy
    c.i.d. 358ci-Non-Intercooled-Blow-Thru 850cfm CSU Carb
    heads Out of the box Trick Flow 195cc
    cam specs Crane Cam #119681-Intake.558 Lift-240*@.050-Exhaust.558 lift-248*@.050-114LSA
    max rpm-6500
    turbo used-60-1 Garrett's
    twin/single-Twin's
    turbine wheel specs-P-Trim-Inducer 2.922-Exducer 2.544
    turbine housing-1.32AR T4
    manifolds-N/A
    headers- tube size 1.50-collector size 3 Inch
    cross over tubing size-N/A
    pre-turbine pressure-14.2psi with 1.32A/R-19.6 with .96A/R-27.9 with .81A/R
    PSI boost-10psi
    back pressure-0.4psi-Measured before Mufflers
    down pipe size-3 Inch
    muffler-Magnaflow #14589-3 Inch Inlet/Outlet-22 Inches long Stainless Steel Oval Case-3 Inch Complete Mandrel Bent Exhaust System
    what rpm does it spool-3540RPM with 1.32A/R Exhausts
    fuel-E-85
    hp/tq-721HP@5800RPM- 802TQ@5360RPM
     
  10. philly

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    Mar 21, 2014
    this is a great thread i wish more people would contribute to since i always thought these combos had huge turbines
     
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  11. larouchedem

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    Mar 17, 2004
    Cadillac
    512"
    Heads: stock iron, 2.11/1.77 - "should" be 300 ish at 28"
    Cam: hyd flat tappet 240/240 at .050", .112 LSA, .560"
    Owner imposed rpm 5400 max - heavy parts
    Twin T04 60-1s, T4 tang .96 A/R housings P wheel
    2.5" logs, 2.5" up, 1.5" to gates, plumbed back to downpipes
    Pre turbine pressure unknown
    Back pressure unknown
    8 psi boost
    3.5" from each turbocharger to rear bumper
    3.5" Dynomax perf core straight through race mufflers
    Will go to 7 psi at 2500 [lower too?], 8 psi by 4000
    93 pump gas. 1/2 oz per gallon octane booster with MMT
    HP unknown
     
  12. mikeg

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    Apr 6, 2013
    I have changed turbos again. TC 78/75 clone with t4 .96 a/r from VS racing. Feels much spunkier. No new numbers yet but seat of pants o meter says it is much better.
     
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  13. yellowpony

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    Dec 14, 2007
    make- Ford
    c.i.d. - 408
    heads - Lightly ported AFR 225's
    cam specs - ??? I really don't know, Custom spec Hydraulic roller
    max rpm - 7500
    turbo used - Garrett GTX5518R
    twin/single - Single
    turbine wheel specs - 111.5mm
    turbine housing AR - 1.00 T6
    manifolds - Ponydown
    headers- tube size,collector size - 1.75", 3"
    cross over tubing size - 3"
    pre-turbine pressure - ?
    PSI boost - 27psi
    back pressure - ?
    down pipe size - 5" to 4"
    muffler - Bullet
    what rpm does it spool - 3100
    fuel - E85
    hp/tq - No idea

    Anthony
     
  14. lightning99l

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    Nov 5, 2014
    make- Ford
    c.i.d.- 410ci
    heads- procomp cleveland 3v with some hand porting in chambers
    cam specs
    max rpm 6,000
    turbo used- not sure what i should use.
    twin/single- single
    turbine wheel specs-...
    turbine housing AR T4-T6- thinking t4
    manifolds- custom have not built yet, 321 stainless.
    headers- tube size,collector size- ..... what would be best?
    cross over tubing size-....
    pre-turbine pressure-....
    PSI boost- can run up to 10psi
    back pressure-....
    down pipe size-.....
    muffler- 2'' burola w/ electric open cutouts
    what rpm does it spool-.....
    fuel- 93 pump
    hp/tq- hasnt been dynoed yet estimating 550-600hp/450-500ft/lbs

    I am new to turbochargers and ive tried using online calculators and im confused as hell. i race N/A big block on dirt circle tracks so i have a good handle on mechanic just not when it comes to boost. i am building a 70 ford torinio where i took the stock 351c and upgraded it to a 410c with aluminum heads and intake and comp cam they recomended for turbo applications. i have not bought anything for the turbo system yet trying to get some ideas and references before i drop the cash. currently looking at the PT6766 CEA would like to use precision products, contacted them and they had me way out in left field with a set up to make 1200hp. this is going to be a sleeper car that i can drive around and the stomp on some rice burns when needed lol.
     
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  15. philly

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    Mar 21, 2014
    you make a run down the strip before hell freezes over the season? or is it already too late in PA?
     
  16. yellowpony

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    Dec 14, 2007
    Philly, I got out a few weeks ago, if you check my build thread I have it all there. I am hoping to get out next Saturday but I'm not sure if the weather is going to hold out. If not it will be done for the winter and I am going to have some things done I have been wanting to.

    Anthony
     
  17. rdisher68

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    Mar 18, 2015
    F2 prochsrged sbc
     
  18. M&M Turbochargers

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    Jan 31, 2011
    make- Ford Chevy Chrysler chevy
    c.i.d. 355
    heads dart shp 200cc
    cam specs summit 1104 224/224 114 .465lift
    max rpm
    turbo used gt45 69mm
    twin/single single
    turbine wheel specs 77/88mm
    turbine housing AR T4-T6 t4
    manifolds flipped manifolds
    headers- tube size,collector size
    cross over tubing size 2inch cross over tubing
    pre-turbine pressure
    PSI boost not into boost yet still tuning and engine break in stage
    back pressure
    down pipe size 3.5
    muffler pypes diagional flow
    what rpm does it spool super fast ,,on the interstate at 27-2800 rpm we have about 2psi hat pressure,, still need to tune, going to try a s475 with bigger turbine
    fuel pump gas
    hp/tq not sure

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  19. Uglydog56

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    Feb 6, 2011
    make- Chevy
    c.i.d. 316 (307 + .060)
    heads Phase II Bowtie, lightly ported
    cam specs 210/210 @ .050, .518/.517 lift, solid roller
    max rpm 5500
    turbo used hx40 with t67 compressor wheel
    twin/single single
    turbine wheel specs 11 vane 67mm
    turbine housing AR T4-T6 .81 turbonetics housing
    manifolds driver's side - corvette c4 manifold, passenger side - ram's horn with an opening on top, military surplus for a generator
    headers- tube size,collector size n/a
    cross over tubing size 2 1/4", necks down to 2" right before manifold
    pre-turbine pressure unknown
    PSI boost 12psi
    back pressure unknown
    down pipe size 3" mandrel bends
    muffler dynomax ultra flow
    what rpm does it spool 1800
    fuel premium
    hp/tq 425/575

    I inject water/meth (wwf) via an old snow performance stage one my brother gave me controlled by ecu. Stock tpi intake with 36# injectors & megasquirt. This is the engine in my dually tow rig.
     
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  20. A Turbo 350

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    Apr 29, 2015
    make- Chevy
    c.i.d. 355
    heads* 327 fuelie port/polish 2.02 valves
    cam specs .440 lift stock 1.5 rockers
    max rpm never been past 5,500
    turbo used* Borg Warner GM-4
    twin/single single
    turbine wheel specs unknown
    turbine housing unknown
    manifolds modified summit block huggers
    headers- 2.75", 3" collectors
    cross over tubing size* 2.5" mandrel bent
    pre-turbine pressure unknown
    PSI boost* 6-7
    back pressure unknown
    down pipe size 2.75"
    muffler none straight
    what rpm does it spool* 2-3k?
    fuel C-12
    hp/tq 525/600
     
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