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powerglide/ converter question

Discussion in 'Turbo Tech Questions' started by SN 94cobra turbo351w, Jul 10, 2013.

  1. SN 94cobra turbo351w

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    ok so one of the sponsors on my website is doing a dyno day this coming saturday.

    so my question is when they have the car on the dyno what is it i should be looking at to see that my converter is loose or maybe a slipping transmission.

    i know the converter is loose because it only drops 300rpm im just curious if their are other signs i should be looking at on the dyno
     
  2. 302andsome

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    Check out this link to calculate converter slippage

    http://www.tciauto.com/tc/racing-calculators/

    You dont even need to be on the dyno for this either, you can just do a street pull when the converter is locked up.

    Not stalking you I promise...it's these damn night shifts with nothing to do but check the boards lol
     
  3. SN 94cobra turbo351w

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    lmao its all good.i just asked you a question on someone else thread about your timing.

    i have seen wallaceracing.com and seen their converter slip % but how do you do it on the street? as to the track
     
  4. 302andsome

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    Just use RPM and MPH.

    Like when you choose a gear ratio to figure out top speed

    Basically mathmatically in a perfect world you should be at a certain speen at 7000rpm....in reality you may be 10-15mph below that. The difference is the converter slip. But the converter needs to be locked up to get an accurate mph at a given rpm
     
  5. 302andsome

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    Conv Slip% = [((RPM * Tire Height) / (Rearend Ratio * Trans Ratio * MPH * 336)) -1] * 100

    Your info with a 275/60-15 tire and 3.23 gear Your top speed with that rear gear in high gear (1:1) should be 154mph, you just have to plug in the actual mph. You could use 85mph for low gear (assuming you have a 1.80 first) and see what it is then too, but you really want to see it in high gear.

    Conv Slip% 0.519 = [((6000 * 28) / (3.23 * 1 * 154 * 336)) -1] * 100
     
  6. SN 94cobra turbo351w

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    thats the issue im having.the car will pull to 6600 in low gear in high gear at a 3000rpm roll i hit it.it will only pull to 5700 and it seems to struggle.pete at hughes said im fighting the converter.

    i just figured we are having a dyno day that maybe the dyno would help me more as to how bad the converter is loose
     
  7. 302andsome

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    Yeah true...seems like its not wanting to lock up in high gear maybe? I'm a noob at converters, I just know how they are suppose to feel when I'm driving lol. I'm not sure how a dyno session would really help you then if you cant even rev it out in high gear.
     
  8. SN 94cobra turbo351w

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    yea im a noob to converters also.

    as for the dyno im not sure either.i have just heard people talk about it.lol
     
  9. SN 94cobra turbo351w

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    ok as for calculating MPH in gear it says at 6500 RPM with a 27.90 tire height and a 3.27 gear my max speed should be 165.

    so i changed the max rpm to 5700 and it says 145 MPH and im gonna say no way in hell im even close to 145.maybe low 130s
    [h=1][/h]
     
  10. 302andsome

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    Right but if the converter isnt locked up then it wont be a solid value. At say 133mph with that info would be around 11% slippage....not good lol. Either way it seem you've got to send it back in and spec'd/stalled for your combo man
     
  11. SN 94cobra turbo351w

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    ok so the question is how do i know if the converter is locking up?
     
  12. kyle86

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    This is what is confusing me in this thread. A powerglide has a non-lockup converter meaning that it always slips. Do you mean you need to be wot and high rpm to determine the correct slip?
     
  13. Rickracer

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    :cool:In this case, lockup = well above stall speed, I.E. minimum slippage,
     
  14. mcj50

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    A dyno loads a car very differently then the track. You may notice severe slippage but you really need to be at the track to get meaningful data for your converter builder.
     
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