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Discussion in 'Turbo Tech Questions' started by Lowlyslows, Oct 7, 2016.

  1. Lowlyslows

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    Aug 27, 2016
    Hello,

    I have been researching how to read compressor maps and think I have figured it out and a turbo(s) for my setup. Just wanted to run this by everyone and see if my logic makes sense.

    Goals and engine:
    1) 700 flywheel horsepower
    2) twin turbos
    3) 5.8L (351w) built engine with aluminum heads
    4) Max RPM 6000
    5) VE 90
    6) Turbo: GTX3576R, 76mm, 58 Trim, 0.6 A/R
    7) 12 PSI boost

    I ended up with a Pressure Ratio of 1.82 and a CFM of 1005.08. From what I understand, I would divide the CFM by 2 (twin turbo) and I get 502.54 as the CFM and 35.22 lb/min PER turbo.

    Ok so in the image attached, the RED line is the Pressure Ratio line, the YELLOW line is the Max RPM at ~35lb/min, the ORANGE line is when I can expect max boost RPM which is 2400 RPM, and the GREEN line is 20% of turbo max RPM CFM for an idea of how close I would be to the surge.

    Questions:
    1) Did I apply everything correctly to the compressor map?
    2) Is the math/logic right to run 35.22 lb/min PER turbo to support 700 horsepower?

    I know some of you would use a different turbo, I just want to know if I did the compressor map process correctly.

    Thanks!

    Slows

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  2. Mnlx

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    Sep 20, 2009
    Looks good to me, and yes 35 lb/min is in the ballpark for 700 fwhp. I wouldn't want to be that close to the surge line though, if they spool just a bit earlier than expected, they could easily surge, and there is nothing wrong with being a little to the right at peak hp for the average setup.
     
  3. Lowlyslows

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    Aug 27, 2016
    So im not sure how to get further to the right of the surge line.. I just drew a line down from where the red line intercepts the surge line which I thought was the minimum RPM for when max boost is reached.
     
  4. Mnlx

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    Sep 20, 2009
    I'd look for something with a little less compressor flow (smaller compressor). You could be a couple efficiency islands to the right at peak without worry, and that will move your boost threshold line away from the surge line as well.
     
  5. Lowlyslows

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    Aug 27, 2016
    Ok. So what's the best way to do this? Just look at other maps from other turbos? I'm not sure how to size compressors accurately..
     
  6. M&M Turbochargers

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