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S475?

Discussion in 'Newbie and Basic Turbo Tech Forum' started by Rpmotorsports, Apr 27, 2014.

  1. Rpmotorsports

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    I am new to turbocharging and have some questions. I'm thinking about hanging one on my big block.
    I have a 468 BBC with GM steal crank, h beam rods and GM aluminum rect port heads, (320 cfm), and I'd like to achieve around 1000hp or so. I've been reading that a BW s475 would do it. What turbin a/r, what compressor size? Also, what is the inducer and exducer and which one matters when sizing?
    What compression ratio?
    Can I achieve this hp with a non roller cam?
    What size carb for blow rough application?
    Anybody here have any success with studded 2bolt main in high hp turbo applications?
    I read Corky,s turbo and he says turbo engines aren't as brutal on bottom parts as n/a and blown applications. Any truth here? Anybody experience?

    Or twins? What size? Cheap, eBay?
    Thank you
     
    Last edited: Apr 27, 2014
  2. Mnlx

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    Assuming you can make 500 hp n/a, a s475 compressor won't support 1k hp. You could step up to a s480, but even the 80mm will fall just short of 1k at a pressure ratio of 2. Imo the largest of the turbines (96mm) is still small for your goals. I would look at twins, or a single in the 85-91mm range.
     
  3. Rpmotorsports

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    If I go twins what would be a good choice? gt45's? What ar and comp?
     
  4. Mnlx

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    Twin 68mm gt45's should be a decent fit. I don't believe there are any a/r choices with the gt45's. The 68mm's are 1.05, and the 76, and 80mm versions have a slightly larger turbine wheel, and a/r.
     
  5. Sweet5ltr

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    S480 would be the best budget turbo, with the 1.58 AR to meet your power goals.
     
  6. sarg

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    I am with mnlx I think the turbine would be too small and pose a major restriction on this large of a motor.
     
  7. Rpmotorsports

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    So sounds like a pair of gt45's is the way to go but 68mm or 76mm?
     
  8. Mnlx

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    Twin 68mm are good for roughly 13-1400 hp at 15 psi, and 76's will support about 1600 at the same boost level. I personally would go with the 68's.... they will make all the hp you want, spool quicker, and are much cheaper than the 76's.
     
  9. M&M Turbochargers

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    x2 68mm gt45's they can be had for about 300.00 each
     
  10. pound4pound

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    FYI I had a billet s480 with race cover and 1.58 are was told by 2 big time turbo builders it's to small for even my small ci bbc 440. I went with the gt45s. I put up a thread asking if any one has killed a gt 45 and no one has said anything that made me feel that I would kill one in my app .... For 1k hp I think 15lbs of boost should do it. I think those turbos on low boost would live for some time
     
  11. sarg

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    Those or a pair if the on3 70 mm turbos. They are cheap too and seem to be decent quality from my experience.
     
  12. M&M Turbochargers

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    an s480 matches a 383 cid pretty good for a rule of thumb
     
  13. Beatdown Z

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    There's a big difference in turbine size between the ON3 70 and GT45. The little ON3 64mm turbine wheels are too small for a 468 BBC.
     
  14. sarg

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    Inducer- 74.5mm

    Exducer- 65mm

    But that being said there have been 347 CI motors making 700 hp on a SINGLE 76mm turbo and like 600 something on a 70mm turbo.
     
  15. H.P.Ranch

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    I run 2 of the 70's on my 6.0, works great.
     
  16. Mnlx

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    I agree that 2 p trims would be small for the op's setup. Twin p's seem to be a good match for 360-400 cid with a decent flowing head. There is a local racer here that runs twin p trim t70's 0n a 383 sbc with e85, and was over 2:1 turbine drive/ boost ratio with .68's. He went to .96's to get it in check.
     
  17. H.P.Ranch

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    How much boost was he trying to run on " E85 Race Gas"? How much backpressure is to much? Best case, worst case?
     
  18. M&M Turbochargers

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    sorry to clutter your thread,,,,,,we should start a turbine size, turbine housing, cid, back pressure ,, thread if you guys think people would participate, i will see what Ken thinks
     
  19. Mnlx

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    In the neighborhood of 14-15 psi iirc. The lower the the better, but 2:1 seems to be the cutoff for a decent setup.
     
  20. Mnlx

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    It should also include cyl head, cam, fuel, and rpm info..... oh, hotside, and post turbine exh info as well. Many factors to consider when dealing with backpressure.
     
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