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I want to turbo a low-compression vintage engine for low-end torque

Discussion in 'Newbie and Basic Turbo Tech Forum' started by Wild Turkey, Aug 11, 2022.

  1. Wild Turkey

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    Yeah, sometimes I don't do things the easy way. Maybe I sniffed too many diesel fumes from the Poppin' Johnnies I drove when I was young. That's where I got my love of low-end TORQUE!

    I've got a 401 GMC Big Block 60-degree V-6 I want to put in my '49 Willys PU. (Please don't beat up on my engine choice; I have my reasons.) The stock '60's era numbers are 377 @ 1400 rpm lb-ft gross torque and 205 @ 3200 rpm gross HP. Bore/Stroke is 4.87 in. - 3.58; CR. is 7.5:1. Yes, there are numerous engines that would be "better" but give an old man (I'm 73) his eccentric tastes. I think it would be a blast to drive down the road with engine chuckling at 1500 rpm. And yes, I will have to fabricate an intake manifold; the one it has is for a harvester (New Idea?).

    We had turboed tractors and irrigation engines on the farm, but I was not involved in setting them up; I was too busy keeping them running.

    So I want my boost from off-idle to 3-4K.

    So how do I size my turbo to do this? I assume it will take a small turbo. Will there be extra plumbing for waste gate, etc? Or would a blower be a better option?

    Not looking for specifics yet--just getting ready to pull the truck out of the weeds and mud but I need to know if it's possible before I build motor mounts, etc.

    I appreciate any help/advice on this. Yes, I'm a crazy old coot but that's what makes life interesting!
     
  2. 91turboterror

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    making boost off idle using a turbo on a gas engine is hard on parts. You might be better off with a 6-71 .
     
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  3. TTF/Ken Staff Member

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    +2. First thing I thought of was do it like you would flathead, a supercharger. It seems more appropriate for this type of application.
     
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  4. 20112011Cummins

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    Sounds like it would be really fun. I've never seen one of these, a little before my time. Apparently people have done some decent upgrades to them which might help unless you want it to look period correct (holley, hei, etc.)

    http://6066gmcguy.com/gmcv6a.html <- no affiliation, found with google

    I say turbo it. I bet it would be a lot of fun and it's not like it will be lacking for torque as is. Twins would package off a pretty simple manifold and look really cool.

    I'm sure somebody with more experience will chime in with a good recommendation on sizing.
     
  5. Wild Turkey

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    Talking to Magnus about one of their 2.9's. Got a lot of reading to do.
    Thanks for the suggestions.
    I will have more questions I'm sure.
     
  6. Wild Turkey

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    There's a forum for them -- you found the reference page. Lots of good information there.
     
  7. tbird

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    Hx35
     
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  8. 20112011Cummins

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    As twins?
     
  9. bbi_turbos

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    Nope, single would work fine, gt35 would work as well to.

    Although neither would be as good as a blower for boost less than 10-12psi.
     
  10. Mnlx

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    Turbo it, but I think you need some realistic goals.... Boost from any form of compressor will be hard on parts at low rpm, especially with such a large bore. I'd personally look for boost to start at ~2000 rpm, peak at 2500-3000, and run it to 4000. Keep boost low, or use an ebc to ramp in more boost above 3000 rpm.
     
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  11. 20112011Cummins

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    What trans are you thinking about using?
     
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