I love my HP kit, and everyone mentioned in Tucson how nice the fit of the kit was and the welding.

 

Either they have low standards in Tucsan or HP has inconsitant results in their welding quality.

 

That sucks. I've got the PTK 5.8L kit, and my intercooler bracket got banged on shipping. I talked to Keith, and he said no problem he'd replace the intercooler, I didn't make it down to PTK until a year later at the TM shootout down in San Antonio, figured I'd save on shipping. He swapped it out for me right there with a new one.

That's customer service.
-Dave

 

My vote is for PTK. The quality on my sn95 kit was exceptional. the welds were fantastic and the kit fit like a glove. there were no problems at all during the installation process except that they said i would not have to cut the fender which of course i needed to(i didnt care)for the turbo to fit.

 

all I can say is the welds on my PTK kit are very nice. As far as fitment issues I can't say as I haven't installed it yet.

 

The headers I purchased from PTK were done very nicely as well. I thus far have no complaints about them. They've taken very good care of me and had parts out in a very timely fashion.

 

PTK for sure. They did everything for my Mod Motor Outlaw car. Looks fantastic. Dalton is doing a great job getting that place whipped into shape and up to speed. Shane H also has the same kit on his mod motor drag radial car. I have pics posted on these forums somewhere....LOL!

 

wow sounds like im getting a PTK kit, thanks for all your input and feel free to keep it coming, seems like theres alot of knowledge here, guess i'll stick around

 

If I were to do a turbo kit all over again, I would choose a PTK. Only knock against them right now seems to be wait times... but then that's pretty much every turbo company.

 

Hey everybody, thought it would be a good idea to come on and let everybody know what is going on at HP. Any body who has recieved any thing of poor quality needs to call us and let us know so we can take care of them, chickendreamer has and we appreciate him for his suggetions and patience, we have changed things around to ensure the quality that is demanded, such as Nathan or I inspecting every piece that leaves the shop and signing off on it. We used to have a supervisor that was in charge of inspecting and that was a mistake that we have learned from. Getting in touch with us will be much easier by the end of next week, two more phone lines and an automated service that will allow you to choose the department you want to speak with and if that department is on the phone it will keep trying the line until it is free. If the call volume exceeds the available lines or it is after hours only then will it go to voice mail. There will be no voice mail for the next week but after that we should be capable of handling much higher call volume. We appreciate all the feedback good or bad it helps us to see where we are and where we need to make adjustments. Take care and God bless.

 

Hellion Power Systems has the Fox Body and the 99-04 2 valve kits in stock and ready to ship. 505 873-4670

 

Why is it people used to bash log headers but praise the hellion system because doesn't it use a log header on the turbo side?

 

Hey Jim,

I completly understand your stance. And I feel your growing pains.
Alot of people do not understand what it takes to build these systems. Its funny some of the problems you have run into are similar to some of the things that we have experienced in the past. We had a Guy come to run our shop and it was the same crap. Bad eye for attention to detail and crappy attitude. That hurt us alot. So we fired him and got back on our feet. We have tried to take every step possible to grow in the right direction. And we have come along way. I wish the best of luck to you and your company. If there is anything that you might need give me a call.

Dalton

 

The log header does not affect the performance of our system. It is a misconception that a tubular header is needed on anything under 1500 hp. We have been racing and testing different header combinations for years, and have found no advantage to having a high flow header system on any of our cars under 1500 hp. In fact, in any turbo system that has an operational wastegate, the header design is insignificant. When a wastegate is operating correctly, it is dumping unwanted pressure, so the flow of the header is unimportant. The only time a header design is important in our applications is if you are trying to maximize the flow to the turbocharger without a wastegate, similar to a naturally aspirated setup. Our system will efficiently support the largest turbochargers we offer (950 hp and above). In fact, it is more labor intensive to manufacture a log header than a standard header. The log header is utilized to enable the retention of all factory accessories in the Hellion turbo system.

John Urist

www.hellionpowersystems.com

 

Yes, but were you one of the people on here bashing log headers in the past and now has a sudden change of heart? No, I did not think so, but all the people that were seem to have shut up and I doubt it was from informative posts like what you just made, they must be hybernating or something. :tard:

Tell that to all the people who blame the 2V Turbolocity kit problems on the headers. Also to all the people who blamed Cartech SS kits for causing excessive back pressures in higher hp conditions and pointing it to the headers. Or to all the people that think they are getting a better product when they get 1 3/4 tubular turbo headers for their street cars. And the list can go on and on ...

I do not think it really matters, hell TTI has been using them on their street kits since what 1987? and hard to find people finger pointing anything to those headers. Just trying to understand what is so GREAT about this new turbo kit beyond it actually being on the shelf. I have seen where keeping all accesories means nothing to so many people. I have also seen where cuting up things in the engine bay means nothing to them. Personally I like it but for the things that so many others could care less about and I base that on all the comments posted on forums like this one over the past few years.

 

i don't feel like searching old post, but didn't trent have his kit redesigned which replaced the log header for a tubular one? he then picked up a whole bunch of power with less boost. i don't know what other changes to the kit was made.

 

Yes, I know he posted about the change and how he was much more happy with the kit. Something about no more exhaust leats, lower air temps and some other things. But the two I just listed could easily been from the new IC he went with and better designed "couplings" and so on. It was more than a redesign, I think it was a whole new kit just using the same turbo and wastegate.

 

Wish you guys the best of luck, I can only imagine how hard it is to keep up with the volume you guys do.

Hey Jimmy, I was wondering, do you think my 60 mm can make enough power to run high 9's in a 3400 lb car or am I gonna have to get something bigger? If I get something bigger I'd like to go with a 76 or something in that range. I'm still gonna try to do it on the stock motor, I just have alot of other work I need to do to the car first. I think with enough boost, I'll be able to make 600-625 to the wheels with the stock motor as long as I can keep the heads on it. Do you think I can find another 100 hp to the wheels with more boost or will my stock motor just choke off the turbo if I try to go any higher? My plan is to run 20-22 lbs with this turbo with full drag suspension, light weight wheels, fuel system, yada yada. Let me know what you think. I think right now as soon as I can get it to hook without breaking anything, it will go 10.60-10.70, at 16 lbs.

Thanks,
Briane

 

Sup, I was just curious.. do you regularly drive this car on the street? if so do you run 12psi on 93 octane? trying to figure out how much boost I should run on my stock motor, I drive the shit out of the car too.. my beater broke on me I'm still trying to decide on which kit I should purchase, so it's going to be awhile before I'm boosted. I'm just trying to get your thoughts, seeing as your motor is completely stock with the HP kit.. that's the situation I'll be in.

 

A 76-GTS is good for about 1000 RWHP, absolute max. Twin T3/T67's are good for about 1400 RWHP, absolute max. They're just a pinch larger. The twin 67's would blow a single T76 out of the water.

No offense to you Mr. Urist, but I totally disagree about logs being just as good as tubulars. We picked up over 40 RWHP and 500 RPM's quicker spool going from a TTI log setup (passenger side stock header flowing into 3" log from behind) to a set of tubular headers with merge collectors. The gains on street cars are very real.