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Holset hx32 oil leak

Discussion in 'Newbie and Basic Turbo Tech Forum' started by hx32, May 23, 2021.

  1. hx32

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    May 23, 2021
    Hi all, I was wondering if you could give some advice.

    Ok here’s the story. Sorry for long read. I have a HX32 for an rb25, I had an an10 drain. Discovered it was too small for the holset.

    Oil didn’t drain quick enough, and leaked out core. I made up a 20mm ID steel drain for the turbo. I decided to take the turbo apart to clean it as I feared it was contaminated from being in the shed (it was) so i rebuilt it with China kit. After a few mins idling, It leaked oil out compressor side. I later found out the part numbers weren’t compatible (although the parts looked identical ?) I thought ok I will source a quality kit(Mellet) specifically for the Hx32w. But sadly it’s leaking again from the compressor side. You can see the oil coming out the compressor wheel.

    I read on mellet they can leak at idle ? but will get not leak if upto engine speeds. I cannot get upto engine speeds as it’s a project and needs mapped etc and bits and bobs. But it didn’t leak oil before I rebuilt it and again it only idled.

    I have double checked all the usuals. My Drain isn’t blocked. the drain is basically bang on vertical. I have disconnected the oil breather lines.

    It’s an An4 feed. Do you think I should try a restrictor? I know a restrictor should not be necessary though... I’m fed up and on the verge of just buying another turbo but I’d rather not as I’m sure you know a genuine holset HX32 is hard to come by. Thinking of buying hx35 chra and putting my 32 stuff on it.

    The current oil level is a little on the low side, however still between min and max. Maybe it needs more oil to build pressure perhaps ?


    Thanks.
     
  2. hx32

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    May 23, 2021
    I also found these which would suggest it is drain related ?






    The guy doesn’t even use the “oil seal” in the 2nd video. And still doesn’t leak oil.

    Although I checked the drain tube and is clear. I will now check the fitting into the block as that could be blocked. Or one or both oil cavities to the bearings could have a tiny bit of Debris blocking them.

    I also found turbo lab of America suggested minimum thickness of 10w-30 with journals as *sometimes* oil can get out if the oil isn’t thick enough. Interestingly I changed to 5w50 (although recommend for rb25s) around the time I changed the turbo to the holset.

    My next steps are inspect drain fitting and give a good clean to both journal feed cavities. If no success I will change oil to some sort of 10w.
     
    Last edited: May 23, 2021
  3. hx32

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    May 23, 2021
    Also had the compressor housing off and started it up and pretty much leaked within 5 seconds of turning the key? surely if it was drain related it would take longer to build up the oil to leak ?

    took the turbo off and cleaned the chra again and quite a fair amount of metal dust came out. Maybe the oil cavities were blocked with all this shit and just poured out the seals ?

    I’m going to modify my oil fitting into the block today. it’s parallel with the floor so i might weld a small bend on it so my oil drain hose fits into it more naturally.

    haven’t tried it back up yet.

    If still doesn’t work I think it can only be:
    •inadequate piston rings/gap?
    •excessive crank case blow by
    •restrictor needed? Although JBs don’t need one


    Any help greatly appreciated
     
  4. 302f150

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    Mar 6, 2007
    Where is all of the metal coming from... That's very alarming and not normal. Check your drain route, I doubt you have enough blowby at idle to cause this unless the engine is toast.

    I had issues on my hx35 leaking into the intercooler without a restrictor. You'll find a lot of conflicting information on restrictors, I used it as a last resort.
     
  5. 91turboterror

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    Mar 17, 2013
    too much oil pressure?
     
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