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Heat wrap VS Jet hot

Discussion in 'Newbie and Basic Turbo Tech Forum' started by Heedzup, Feb 9, 2007.

  1. Heedzup

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    Would like to find out which would make my ponydown tt kit last for a long time and not rust out in the years to come.

    If I could just stay with the heat wrap or should I save some money and get the kit jet hot...Thanks
     
  2. nova

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    the added heat from wrapping mild steel headers has been known to almost corrode the tubing and eat right threw them over time. if your looking for long term durability then i would get them coated. all turbo piping will crack over time with enough heat cycles and vibration the better metal just buys you time.
     
  3. Heedzup

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    I think I will save some money up and get it ceramiced or jet hot..Thanks
     
  4. onewickedcamaro

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    Go jet hot it's great. I have a friend who wrapped his headers they rusted out in no time.
     
  5. Heedzup

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    Thanks bud thats all I wanted to find out..I thot no one was going to post. :huh:
     
  6. pepsi dude

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    Jet Hot looks a lot better
     
  7. Mike SVOR

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    If you're going for show quality looks or something, then get them jet hot coated.

    If you want to decrease underhood temps and reduce radiant heat, I would paint the headers and turbo system with 1500 degree bar b q paint (black) and then wrap them with thermotec wrap. (the regular stuff, NOT the black thermotec) Once they dry, spray them with black bbq paint to eliminate the wrap flaking or tearing.
    My headers have never rusted through with this method of bbq paint and wrap.

    I just completed my latest headers not too long ago.

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  8. Bellman Jeff

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    Why not the black wrap ??
     
  9. Mike SVOR

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    Gregh429 bought the black wrap, and I watched it crumble in his hands and go all over the floor. It's made with graphite and seemed to just fall appart.
    I've always used the original 2" wide thermotec wrap and haven't found anything better.
     
  10. GODOFWAR306

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    I wrapped my downpipes with the 2 inch black thermotec and have never had that happen to me. :scratch:
     
  11. gregh429

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    The "black" wrap is graphite-impreganted and a lot of the black color comes off while wrapping especially if you wet it down like you are supposed to. If I had it to do again I would just use the regular wrap and paint it afterwards with thermo-tec paint in a can. Also from my personal experience, in comparison to the regular wrap the black wrap seems more prone to ripping during install. With the big block in my engine bay it is a close fit and any time the header wrap came in contact with the frame rail or K-member it ripped. This seems odd to me since the regular and the graphite-impregnated wrap should not be that much different but this is what happened. I did get the black wrap when it first came out so I don't know if things have changed since then. As far as Jet-hot I had my long tubes for my 86 with a 302 coated, the collectors rusted pretty bad within 3-4 years and I live in Florida so no salt on the roads.

    If I had the money I would ceramic coat the headers AND wrap them.

    Greg
     
  12. rickyhaiber

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    I have wrapped my hot parts before but never the headers......

    With that said, I have only had my crossover and the downpipe wrapped and used the black wrap and it never fell apart of anything like that. Maybe you guys got a bad roll or one of the earlier batches before they fixed whatever the problem was.

    I am using the regular shit this time and not black (not becasue of your guys' experiences, though), but because I already got some for free from a buddy.

    I wonder if it would be okay to just go ahead and wrap my B&G headers or just leave them alone and not risk the possible issues... :huh:
     
  13. Bellman Jeff

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    I bought 2 fifty foot rolls of the black stuff..It's sitting in the garage right now.. I also plan to get my pipes Jet-Hot coated with their black stuff, that's why I bought it..

    Thanks for the tips.. I think I'll wrap my pipes with the black stuff dry.. Then wet them down and then let them sun dry..
     
  14. Heedzup

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    Thaks for the info guy's..I might try thr BBQ paint and heat wrap..I just don't want the kit to rust out on me in the years to come thats all..
     
  15. rickyhaiber

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    I don't know how much the BBQ paint will help after a few heat cycles and after getting wet a few times. I would have to say it might help for a little, but how long would it actually last before the paint came off?
     
  16. Heedzup

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    I just found a guy that ceramic coats in Ontario Canada will be sending the kit to him.. :2thumbs:
    O ya thanks for all the info and help.
     
  17. Mike SVOR

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    The 1500 degree BBQ paint is more like Dye. It lasts forever on mine. I coat the hell out of my headers before I wrap them.
     
  18. BottleFed70

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    Please check your PMs. I'm also in Canada and would like to know who you are using and how it comes out. Thanks.
     
  19. boner

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    if you decide to do jet hot, do HPC in phx instead. waaaaaay cheaper and same quality.
     
  20. rickyhaiber

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    I'm probably going to end up doing that then... Where do you get it, Home Depot/Lowe's?
     
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